Would Turkish become common language for Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan by 2010? 14 janvier 2008
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AKIpress (Kirghizstan)
11 January 2008
Turkic speaking nations would use Turkish language as a common language. One common language is important for expansion of ties and cooperation betwen Turkic speaking nations. Turkish language is used by Turkic speaking nations for 10 years. Transformation of the Turkish language into a common language of the Turkic speaking nations would be completed within the upcoming 10 years, » Chair of Parliamentary Committee for Culture Affairs of Azerbaijan Nizami Jafarov told Trend agency.
There are 6 independent Turkic countries in the world. This is Azerbaijan, Turkey, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Turkmenistan. The attendees of the 11th Congress of Turkic Speaking Nations held in Baku in 2007 adopted the recommendations to create a common Turkic language.
Jafarov stressed the Turkish language should be used in a form which would provide for big opportunities of communication between the Turkic speaking peoples. « The Turkish language will become one common language for a big group of people. This process is ongoing now quite naturally, however, it is necessary to expedite it, » said Jafarov.
According to Jafarov, the use of Turkish by the Turkic speaking nations would not lead to disappearance of Azerbaijani, Turkmen, Uzbek, Kyrgyz and Kazakh languages.
« These languages would be used as state, written and literary languages of the Turkic republics, » said the Chair of the Parliamentary Commission for Culture Affairs.
Jafarov assumed the process of creation of a common alphabet of independent Turkic nations would complete by 2010 ãîäó. This would be Latin alphabet, which would be conducive for creation of a common Turkic language.
Azerbaijan, Turkey, Uzbekistan use Latin. Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Turkmenistan mull over switch to Latin alphabet. « This process would be completed by 2010 the latest, » said Jafarov.
ACTURCA 
The best way is to implement language assimilation in all the respected nations. First, people should have similar alphabet, not necessarily the same. Second, they should be exposed to each others’ language by means of media to a certain degree. Third, both political and economic ties should strengthen among these nations. Otherwise, there is a risk of civil wars, which can easily be ignited by external forces, as all the cited nations have high degrees of nationalism. Mutual cultural events should be organized, and in the process of assimilation, nations should be tested for mild degrees of possible impulses that might arise some conflicts between nations. A comprehensive set of strategies and a unique schedule should be attained.
Turkish (copied from the previous comment, not my words):
« Mening fikrimçe Türklerning hem özleri başka Türkiy tillerni ögrenişi kerek ve bu ularning Orta Asiyadaqi »qarindaşları » bilen kelişuvı için hem majburi eken. Şunday aytmakçımen ki biz meselen Özbekçanı gepleşni azgine ögrensek yaman bolmaz. Gep şu hakta ki mesele Rus tili kollanuvi emes, biz ularning gepleşken tillerni yahşı tüşünmeyapmız dep oylaymen. »
Uzbek:
« Mening fikrimcha Turklarning ham o’zlari boshqa Turkiy tillarni o’rganishi kerak, va bu ularning O’rta Osiyodagi qarindoshlari bilan kelishuvi uchun ham majbur ekan. Shuni aytmoqchimanki, biz masalan O’zbekchani ozgina o’rgansak yomon bo’lmas. Gap shu haqidaki, masala Rus tili qo’llanuvi emas, biz ularning gaplashgan tillarini yaxshi tushunmayapmiz deb o’ylayman. »
Turkic-speaking nations to create a common language
http://www.azernews.az/azerbaijan/57091.html
Hello
Before a common language among the Turkic Republics is set, there shoud be a common alphabet. If a common alphabet is used, then all Turkic Languages will come closer in a short time, maybe in 50 years. All Turkic Republics should use Latin Alphabet but their new latin alphabet should be modelled after the Turkish Alphabet.
Except for Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, other republics has already switched to the Latin Alphabet. But new Uzbek and Turkmen alphabet was modelled after transliteration of their old Cyrillic Alphabets. So it is still difficult for Turkish speaker to read and understand these new Uzbek and Turkmen alphabets.
I have heard that Kazakhstan will switch to the Latin Alphabet by 2025.
I hope, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan will not make the same mistake. I hope, they will make their new Latin Alphabets modelled after The Turkish Alphabet.
And the Turkmen and Uzbek Alphabets should be revised and should be modelled after the Turkish Alphabet.
Thanks a lot.
Mənim fikirimə görə Türk dünyasının ortaq dili Azərbaycan Türkcəsi ola bilər. Ona görə ki öyrənməyi asandır; təkcə Türklərin yox, xarici mllətdən adamların bilə asanlıqla öyrənə biləcəyi bir qrammatikası vardır. Onu da qeyd edim ki özüm Türkiyə Türküyəm.
A possible candidate of common language among Turkic people is Turukca, an artificial but succesful language now being slowly constructed by an amateur linguist, me
I will show you an example of it:
Nemä üçün Türükçä
Tarihniñ eñ eski uluslarından biri bolgan Türüklär tarih yüzägä keltirgän vaqıalar arasında öz el, uruq vä boyları boyunça bölünüp ayrışdı. Kün ötgän sayın aradagı ayrılıqlar yenä başqalıqlar köpäyip ketdi. Bu öñü alınmaz, qaçışı-yoq ketiş bilän Türük alämi bugüngi körünüşünü tapdı.
Basıp aluvçılar, qozgalañlar, uruşlar eksik bolmadı Türüklär yaşar yurtlarnıñ üstündän. Ötgän zaman Türüklärgä qarşı işlädi vä Türüklär heç qaçan birliklärindä açılgan yaranı oñaruv mümkünçiliğigä yetmädi.
Üstdägi sözlärimizniñ küçü Sovetlär İmperiyası çökgändä tükändi. Sovetlär birliği yoqalgan künü, Türük alämi içindä öz ornuna eyä Türük elläriniñ sayı öz erkinliğini öz qoluga alganda Türüklär üçün yep yeñi bir çağ başlandı.
Erkinlik, qaraşsızlıq Türük elläriniñ Türüklüklärini añlaşlarını mümkün qıldı. Ötmüşnü bir başqa köz bilän körüş vä yoruş mümkünçülüğünü tapgan Türük xalqları özara bağlanışlarında, qarım-qatışlarında ortaq bir tilgä keräksinüv tuyuşdu. Şunluqdan ortaq Türük tili keräk boldu.
Ortaq Türük tili keräk boluşuna boldu bıraq şul tilni turmuşga, çınga aşıruvçı heç bir närsä öz boluşunu tapmadı, Ortaq Türük tiligä teğişli sözläklik qılgan kişilär işni amälgä aylandırış üçün alga yürmädi. Cavapkarlıqnı öz üstügä aluvçı, işbütürüvçi yoqluğunda Ortaq Türük tili tüşünçäsi dä tüş bolup ketä yazdı.
Uşbu ketişgä çıdayalmadıq, köñlümüz şu tirişmäzlik yağdayını kötärmädi. Türüknüñ miñ yıllıq tilägi ämälgä aşsın dep, Ortaq Til tüşünçäsi tüş bolup ketmäsin dep, eñ azından birävläri öz qolundan kelgänni qılışdı degänlär bolsun dep Türükçäni yarandıruv üçün yolga çıqdıq.
İhtimal häväskarlığımız, tirişçänliğimiz, emäklärimiz boşga ketmäz, birävlär bayqap yürär, şu tilni körär, öğränär vä şu til boğundan boğunga köçürülür ümidi bilän yolga çıqdıq.
Bundan keyin Türük tilläri arasındaki ayrılıqlar tüşünmävçiliklär üçün sıltav bolmaşı üçün Türüklär öz aralarında işlätä aladığan, barımızga bolgança ortaq tilimiz boluşu üçün, sözläşip biri birilärimizni oñayraq tüşünärliğimiz üçün Türükçä.
Bu tilniñ yasama boluşu mühim emäs. Soñ uçda onu turmuşga aşırıp çınlıq qazandıruv mümkünlüğü sizlärniñ qoluñuzda turar. Yasama bolup turgan här närsädek bu til dä kämçiliksiz emäs. Biz neğizni qoyamız, onun üstügä öynü qurup kötärüvçi keläçäk näsillärdir. Onu kämçiliksizlikgä yetiräçäklär onun sözläşüvçi vä yazışuvçıları bolaçaqdır.
If interested you can keep an eye on it at turukca.com or turukca.net.tc
Hello everyone,
I am a Turkish guy from Ankara and I am about to get married to a girl from Uzbekistan. She does not understand Turkish as she thinks in Russian, not Uzbek. I can understand Uzbek a little bit when it is spoken and this is mostly because of the influence of Persian and Russian. but I can understand 75% of Uzbek when it is written. Therefore I see that there are two main problems. The first one is Russian and the second one is pronounciation.
Despite all difficulties, I believe that the solution is simple. Broadcasting Turkish television channels in Middle Asian countries will solve the problem in at most 5 years. Then we will look back and laugh at what you have written.
Best Regards. Ana vatandan ata vatan evlatlarına selamlar. Akıllı olun canımızı yiyin 🙂
Türükçä adında yapay dil denemesi var: http://www.turukca.com ziyaret kılıp üzv boluşuñuz mümkün.
instead of assuming Turkish as a common lang. why dont we Turks learn all of them so that the problem will be solved 🙂 and once you learn e.g Uzbek it would be easier to learn say Kazakh or Kyrgyz. Why would these people accept Turkish being imposed on them ? They all have their own national identity, languge is the most important notion that defines it and they are proud of it ! Some of them do not even accept the fact that we should »unite » anyway.
Mening fikrimçe Türklerning hem özleri başka Türkiy tillerni ögrenişi kerek ve bu ularning Orta Asiyadaqi »qarindaşları » bilen kelişuvı için hem majburi eken. Şunday aytmakçımen ki biz meselen Özbekçanı gepleşni azgine ögrensek yaman bolmaz. Gep şu hakta ki mesele Rus tili kollanuvi emes, biz ularning gepleşken tillerni yahşı tüşünmeyapmız dep oylaymen.
Salamat bilen,
Bavyrlas jigitterge Türkieden öte salam aytamın goi 🙂
Jaralgan namıstan kaharman halıkpız!
I am a Turk from Istanbul, Turkey writing from Kazakhstan where I am on business.
Reading many letters above I can not help but remember Kultigin’s advice to the turkish nation « don’t get divided ». Did we heed his advice? I don’t think so!
Turkish Republic is the 16th independependent turkish nation (I am using the term turkish loosely to mean people of turk stock.) Now luckily the number has risen with the addition of Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan. In my earlier life as a student in USA we used to have a saying: »10 greeks come to America, they organize a greek organisation. 10 turks come to America, they organize 10 turkish organisations » .
So let’s stop bickering whether it should be turkish or kazakh we should use in a union. Once we unite that issue will take its own course and that will be that. But if we start arguing before we unite, father Kultigin will be turning in his grave and we will never unite.
Ibrahim H Caglayan, PhD
Jalpi Türk Tili degen ortaq Türk tili proyekti hem bar.
In my opinion, I don’t think a unified Turkic language is possible. While it would strengthen our ties it would harm our respective national identities. Not counting the complex language problems it would pose.
What I would love to see is if all the former Soviet countries could abolish the Cyrillic writing system and adopt a unified Latin system to make learning Turkic languages easier.
The inception of a Turkic Union (just like the European Union) could lift economic barriers and invigorate a strong bond between us to the future perils of the world.
Ozunden bolsun
Bir nemeni zorlamak kerekmes. Biz barcamiz/varcamiz 800-1400 yillarinin yazilgan sozlerini oyrensek ozlugumuzden anglasalurmiz/tusunusalirmiz, Istanbulnun Turkcesi (b)olmasa da. Turkler, korkmanglar. Til bizninki. Esen (b)olunglar
I am from Guney Azerbaycan.Turkish is suitable for all turkic countries.But we should replace arabic and french and english words in turkish with Azeri,turkmen,uzbek….. Words.In this case Perfect turkic language will be made.
hi i am kamran fareidouni from iran i am the manager og
qashqaie language institut in fars state … i want to receive some
infomation about turkish language and i must say turkish language
is turkish peoples identity the we must be aware about our language
……
I’m from south « az er bay ghan » . I realy support turkic union .
I think the language is not so important . the most important thing is our enemies ( Slavs , Europe , China , Zionists , Iran , USA ) .
the language problem can be solved very easily by a mixed languages : something like the turkic language of divan ul lughat ut turk .
and for me the official language is not important . I like all turkic languages and i can speak most of them .
kazakhlar = turkmenler = uyghurlar = ozbekler = kyrgyzlar = anadolu turkleri = az erleri = …
I dont want to speak in Turkish, either accept any other language as a turkic-wide common language. I myself am Qazaq, and I shall say I love my language. Moreover, it is the most sophisticated and developed language among other turkic languages, so why should I speak on other alien to me languages? On the contrary, we can establish Qazaq as a common interturkic comunuication language. It is the puriest Turkic language ever and has been preserving purity and authenticity since since earliest times of Old Turk, Orkhon languages. My suggestion is the Qazaq language. It is not only my opinion, even Turkey colleague turks propose Qazaq to be turks’ intercommunication language. Others lobbying an idea of AnaTurk, but it is undeservable is even not worth to consider as an option due to many reasons… So far, we should consider Qazaq language as common language of communication between all turkic nations!
Turks unite!
Together we will be stronger.And noone will harm us.
Neither our language,nor culture,nor identity,nor roots,nor countries,nor turkishness will get harmed.
We have to unite again.
So that the enemies get erased and peace arises again.
Turk birlik kerak
Hello every one >>
I am from kerkuk in Iraq .. I study in arabic in my primary and secondary school .. But before I learn arabic letters I was speaking my language turkmen (turkish) with very small difference in some words and prononciation from turksih language .. that is mean my language is in my mind not in books and letters I have never read turkish letter before 10 years of my age but I was speaking it just when I was coming to world I said my first word in my life which it is (( Ana )) means mamy .. and all kerkuk people are like me thay speak turkmen in daily conversation makes arabs and kurds also speak turkish in every where without book or schools … that is mean the original people are living here and other places where turkic people they should speak their language if they are real know themselves .. and we need to unite in every country that we live there.. we shlould not care to any great power like russain and china .. but I see that the azeri language is like kerkuk with very small difference in some terms .. I do nt know what about other countries like ozbekiastan turkmenstan khazakisan are they speak their language or russian and why that happened .. I think if there is any wrong they should be correct it . those countreis are not very young there are 19 years old .. My regards to all my brothers in turkey , azerbayijan , iran , kibris, turkmenistan … looking to hair from others in central asia..
Well, I don’t rule out the possibility of a common language, but it should not be either Turkish or Kazakh or any other *mixed* language. The only *pure* Turkic language (the one the kagans spoke in the 5-8th centuries) is Tofalar/Tubalar.
hello to everyone who reads this
i think turkic union will make all the turkic countries stronger and more powerfull because theres going to be a time when there going to be a war in all your counries and all of you going to get taken over some of you by china and some by russia so you lot better start thinking straight befor its to late …… i feel sorry for turkey its probably the only countrie whos going to have to go war to save the rest of use …. but together you lot will be strong and no one is going to be able to go war with use ….. like whos will go war with the eu thats like all eu countrie ve the one who starts it …… all that turkic history you have will be forgoten you will lot will end up be like turkistan which is in china now is that better then ….. you see what the arabs did to the ottomans now you see what happen to them they geting killed everyday if you lot want to be like that aswell then don’t join and see what happens in 10 or 15 years later and don’t think any other countries is going to help use because no one help muslims we seen whats happen to bosnia kosovo iraq palestine and the chechnya people who help them ………… so join and be strong and protecec your history
thanks for reading
Unification process of folks does not work like this. It’s just a natural process. It comes after power.
I met many Kazakh people. Even in their daily conversations they talk Russian. That is the language of the country that sistematically crashed Kazakhstan during last 200 years, killing hundreds of thousands of Kazakh, leaving a country with no Identity. In the forum there are many messages saying that they must preserve their culture against turkish. Just look at them , you will not see old honoured Kazakh culture but the ruin of russian assimilation.
What this people can not understand is Turkish people is not another turkic folk but a mix of mainly turkic , caucasian, balkanian, middle eastern folks. It’s already a union of different folks.
What is the next step. Very simple. Turkey continues to develop. Turkic people just sit and drink vodka. They talk about their identity, but do this in russian 🙂 10 years later, as they see the power , all turkic folks try to find a way to be part of Turkey. They all learn Turkish. Don’t believe me ? Just try to count how many Bosnian, Albenian, Bulgarian, Georgian, Arabic, Persian, Kurdish, Kazakh, Chechenian, Armenian, Turkmen, Kirgiz, Ozbek, Uyghur, Azeri etc… people live in Turkey and identify themself as turkish already. They are not assimilated by Turks. They built this culture and language collectively. Millions ? 10 Millions ? More ? Definitely more. Compare the dinamism of Istanbul and Almaty. Now try to estimate the situation 10 years later.
1000 years ago the dinamic powers of central asia transformed Anatolia and started a new era. And now the dinamic powers of Anatolia is rising to transform itself. Central asia and some others will just try to follow, automatically … Leader goes, others follow. Leader determines the rules, the standards, the language. If you learn you get benefit. If you don’t learn you fall behind. That’s it.
Sürüden ayrılanı Rus kapar.
Selamlar.
Yeah I understand you. Half of the kazakhs are russified (assimilated). But now thing are getting better off. I myself never use russain in my daily use though I can speak russian. I and many other kazakhs do not like that russified kazakhs, but this is only a matter of time.
Hi to all sisters and brothers,
I am an Uzbeki speaking Turk living in northern Afghansitan (also called Guney Turkistan). I really support the move toward such a unification so that all Turks around the world can be proud of their unity, economic/political power, heritage, history and common interests.
Unfortunately, I see some poeple being offended here on this issue and they are mostly people who still enjoy soaking their bread in Russian milk. I am sure they do not represent the whole Turkish nation in each country, so they are not important to what extent they agree or do not agree on this. Even if referendums are held in each country, the final restul will be YES for selecting Turkish of Turkey as the common language and undergoing through other steps of unification.
Ehtrom ele,
Davot,
Turklerin berligi bezim boyuk armaghanimiz dir.
TURKIYE land of ATATURKS… WE ARE PROUD, lets join our rich and ancient cultural heritage, show the west we can unite and share our richness.
Birsen,
Stop getting divided, you are putting butter to westerns’ bread. I agree what Damla said previously. Please understand the real meaning of unification between the countries who have common treads and language root before you make any comments. West is always weary for Turks to be united over the history. Turks are the original Atlantians and Lemurians many thousand years ago, lets say at least 50 thousand years. Be proud to speak TURKISH,
It’s a good idea to have common language among Turkic origin countries even go far beyond and use Original Gokturk scripts. That’s the ideal world which wont happen. Perhaps During 90s it would be a trend. After fast global changes former soviet countries embraces new communist China instead of looking for their roots. For example in Kazakhstan Communist China supported Mafia controlling everything. Kazakh media and government totally controlled by mafia to decide the destiny of Kazakhstan. They are doing their best to change the focus of the Kazakh public and promote new imperialist communism.
China providing great support to Kazakh mafia to keep the control of the government and protect the chinese interest in Kazakhstan. So Kazakh mafia helping china back for marketing organs of executed young healthy Uighurs to larger geographies especially those slavic and eastern european countries for BIG BIG BIG BUCKS and RED EVIL support. So Uzbekistan, they are also doing same shit They are betraying own people to please evil china. Talking about Turkish? now way they are promoting chinese language as their future official language. Well nothing against to chinese language in fact Mandarin one of the language I speak. But the mindset behind the changes is the dangerous one.
Maybe you can promote Turkish in Xin Jiang if you count to remaining Uighurs, Since world needs more freshly extracted top quality organs from Uighurs, Since remaining Falun Gong prisoners quantity almost getting lesser and lesser after fast sales of organs Chinese government in need of more sources of Organs. So speaking Turkish would be convenient excuse for china to prosecute more Turkic origin to label them terrorist to harvest their organs.
Wake up people, don’t dream things far beyond the possibilities. Face the truth. If you really do something, help people the learn whatever they wont and let them reach to the non biased sources. Teach humanity and respect to human life.
Common turkic language is the easiest problem of this union.
Lets talk about getting rid of Russian and American domination. Some central asian people even don’t use their own language.
i think with turkeys stable economy and modern day technology, and with Kazakhstan’s vast natural resources we can be a very powerful nation, even supersede Russia’s economy.
perhaps once we have united all the Turkic nations with one language we can establish something like a T.U (Turkic union) counterpart of the E.U (European union)
Arian said: « Today population in Turkey are anthropologicly more Europoid (caucasoid) race rather than of Mongoloid race like population of all Central Asian Turkic speaking contries. Even, many Turks has whiter skins than Greeks (europeans by the way). »
I don’t know where you’re getting that from because I’ve been to both countries (Greece and Turkey) and if you compare those two people’s pigmentations I’d say there’s an equivalent difference as between like Germans and Lebanese. Greeks don’t look any different to spaniards, italians or even French whereas Turks are physically much closer to Arabs and Pakistanis. And that’s without adding the cultural factor.. If you add that then in my eyes the Turks were no different to arabs in any way. Really when I was in Turkey I didn’t think the people looked neither far eastern asiatic nor europen. They just look arabic and some even pakistani – dark, short and hairy.
I think we can make it happen.We live in a world that union brings the power.Why most turkic countries use cyrillic alphabet thats why russian exploited them.but in my opinion if turkic world unites (despite imperialism) then we will the third powerful union in the world.if we want to save our culture and race we should do that.
Hello all,
I want to say that i am a Turkish-American, and i currently study sociology and antropology. In regards to the reason as to why all the Turkic speaking countries should speak Turkey’s Turkish is simple.
Out of all the Tuskic Nations out there the most populated and economically stable is Turkey. I love all my brothers and sisters, a lot in our cultures are the same. We all have the saame past. Here in the states in Brooklyn, i grew up and was best frinds with many Turkmen, Kurds, Albanians, Kosovo Albaninans, Arabs, Azeris, and many more central asian Turks. We are all identified with the same religion, same past, same traditions, and the same goals. This is not imperialism, no one here is asking you to give up your identity; but in retrospect to assume a unified language. To in on simple way become a whole.
Also the Turkish language of Turkey is very well know all over the world due to vast migration of the Turks and the vast conquest of the Ottoman Empire. The Turkish language of Turkey is by far the most spoken Turkic language and the simplest to adopt and learn. This is demonstrated by the Ottoman Turks who adopted modern day Turkish as opposed the Ottoman Turkish. I hope this makes sense in some way. Even now all Turkic languages are dilects of each other.
Such as that of old Italy. We must unify with this language. Evven with one language i am positive that we will have different accents. ie. All the spanish speaking nations.
Saim Bora Erden
Authentic Ottoman roots to Sogut, Bilecik.
The Turkish people from Turkey who have european features are mainly the decendants of Ottoman Slavs. History teaches us that in the Ottoman Empire many Slavic people converted to Islam and became assimilated by the Ottoman culture (Turkified?). Even as early as the 15th century, the majority of the Ottoman army was in fact Slavic-speaking. This is attested in medieval documents like those of Romanian nobles during the Ottoman march against Vlad Tepes in Romania. Also, even during the years of Byzantine Anatolia, the Greek/Byzantine population was mainly focused on urban and coastal areas. The central part of Anatolia that was far from the sea was inhabited by non-Greeks and contained mainly european populations who were there since antiquity. Those people were all assimilated by the Ottomans. There are many really dark Turks who are possibly decendants of Arabic populations. But there are still a lot of Turks (from Turkey) with strong central-Asiatic features like skin, nose and eyes. Anatolia has been a crossroad between three continents so it contains everything.
Hi, I get an impression that some of the Turkish-Turks feel insulted by being associated to other Turkic nations, especially the ones from Central-Asia.
My guess is that the Turkish really want to be part of the European Union and considered European, rather than Asian in anyways.
That’s really sad considering that a lot of Central-Asians have deep roots to the Turkish-Turks…I find that there’s a bit of racism out there in their minds.
My idea may sound crazy and far-fetched in a Turkish forum. However if the unity and ease of communication in the region (I mean whole Asia) is the primary goal, then one solution might be to go back to ol’ good days and re-adopt Persian as a lingua franca language. Then you will have not only turkic countries but Persian speaking countries unite. As far as I know standard Persian was the lingua franka not long time ago from India/Pakistan to central asia to Caucasia and Ottomon empire, Kurdistan, Iraq and Persian Gulf states. Unlike Turkish languages’ weakness in this regard, the Persian language exists only in one and only one standard form thanks to innumerous written Persian classic texts and countless world class Persian poems authored by different ethnic groups and in different regions from Ottomon empire, Albania, Caucasia, Kurdistan, Iraq, Azerbaijan, Persian Gulf states, Iran, Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkeminstan and Bangeladesh. This vast geographic area with total population between 1.5 – 2.0 billion people.
But again there is no wonder that why all the western powers (especially Russia and English) have been actively against this earth shattering awakening in the last 200 years. They succeded in breaking the cultural closeness of the region by waging war against Persian language , and keeping people from their cultural hertitage by changing their old scriptures.
First We have to understand that all high-placed officials in these countries speak Russian, blue blood can speak just in Russian , English etc., and this grup of peaple never like turkish language and turkish culture, becouse they don’t know even her own mather Language!So my conclusion this idea is utopia!!
typos (damnit):
You guys HAVE TO* to be logical and understand the MOTIVE* here instead of being offended…
Some of you do not understand the purpose of this offer. Making Turkish national language in other Turkic countries does not mean you have to give up speaking your own language or culture. It is to make sure we all become one and so strong in the world and respected one day. Remember the Ottoman Empire? Look at Christian nations today. They are so strong and everyone has to obey them even though people do not agree. I love the idea. We have to unite soon. Because the US knows there are scattered Turks all around the world and fear we might unite someday, they try to destroy Turkey (the strongest nation of all Turkic countries). That’s why it is recommended we all speak Turkish instead of making up a new language or something. You guys to be logical and understand the movie here instead of being offended as if Turkey is trying to make you forget who you’re. There are ethnic groups in Turkey today who speak their own language and have their own beauty but what unifies them is how they also speak Turkish and see this land as their own. We have to unite, my Turkic brothers and sisters.
I understand the resentment of choosing Turkey Turkish as the common language. Maybe it can be better if a group of Turkic linguists come together and work towards unifying the Turkic languages, benefiting from all. But, I strongly believe that somehow a convergence in Turkic languages is necessary. The trend in the World as a result of globalization is that some languages are being eliminated. There won’t be many languages in 2100s. Many Turkic languages will get eliminated somehow naturally over time. If we can converge our Turkic languages, Turkish can be one of the very few (maybe less than 10) languages that will make it through the next two centuries.
Turkic languages are far easier to learn than Russian. There is no gender and the phonetic nature with only very limited irregularities give rise to this.
the history of Russian domination and empire is exactly what Turkic people want to avoid. The fact that it is easier is probably the reason why russophiles want Russian as the lingua franca. NO!
I personally think that it worths better fot the Turkic countries of ex-USSR to keep to Russian, as this languages offers them better oppportunies than Turkish (because it is widely known in all former Soviet countries, in Eastern Europe and even overseas). Of course, Turkish has a greater proximity, but it is more limited in a practical-oriented way.
Anyway my experience (I am a diplomat) is that all high-placed officials in these countries speak Russian and would really be at a loss to speak Turkish-of-Turkey. So it will definitely take time to implement this reform (if it is not a tongue in cheek proposition).
We have enough of Russian and English to master, let aside Turkish.
I think your saying is not neutral you are trying to take them to wrong place It would be better to know soo relevant Turkey Turkish language with other branch of Turkish besides kazakhs kırghiz and uzbeks are learning Turkey Turkish soo easily because soo many words already same and similar with each other on the other hand their kazakhs kırghiz and uzbek’s language should be stable in their own region Turkey Turkish can be common to communicate between this countries like happened in european union all european can understand and talk english we can make our own Turkish Union without loosing our other languages
It is possible to take a minor turkic language so that almost all Turkic people have to learn this new standard language – therefor eeveryone feels equal and there should be no resentment.
An example of this approach is Indonesia which is a far greater mixture of peoples of different religions, history but all malay in ethnicity and all formerly under the Dutch.
It is possible. Next where to put the centre or new federal capital or Turan or the Turkic economic community leading to a Turkic union…
There is a lot of work to do…
WELL I dont just understand why Turkish ?
Im Turkmen and i think we could mix our accents together to have a new langueage….
why not?
we should do it :commun dictonary,same alphabet,more relationship between all the turcic countries.
i wish and hope that we could do it.
The real linguistic imperialism is that to force speaking all the world to the english language .
u seem to dividing the pan turkic poele into small tribes which is a big problem in euorpe now.
turkification is a linguistic imperialism. let central asian people speak their language. it sounds as neo-latin languages( spanish, portugues, italian,spanish,and so on) were « represented » by only one of them in international arena. Spanish speaking people wouldn’t accept to be « represented » by Italian or French in international events,and so on.
yes its true what enver pasha said muslim and turkic peole r more united then others abd we must compare ourselfes with anglo-saxons in history like usa uk etc.
i wanted to mention that ,having a unified language would be great idea to increase the ties among turkic speaking countries , and it does not mean that native tounges should be disappeared ,it can make us more powerful and effective in world policy also , but unfortunately some of central asian turkic countries have been Russianised alot during soviet union ,for example some time ago i had a trip to azerbaijan and i saw poeple prefer to speak Russian along side all harms to these poeple from Russia.
look at English speaking countries or French speakings or also Arab league conutires,they all have a unified language but diffeerent in dialect.which makes them to be able to act together in world policy and use each other’s improvments to grow together .
I’m from Cyprus, and I am Turkish. You are wrong! Not all Turks of Turkey are European-looking. I have ten brothers and Sisters of the same parents. Three of my Brothers have green eyes and blonde hair, 4 of my sisters including me, have oriental features, and I am not white either. If I was in Kazakhistan walking around the place you would not been able to tell the difference, as the same with all my family, and your language is like TURKISH anyway, because I can understand it!
For one, I think you are beautiful people, I would not change you at all
Hi to all the readers,
`In my opinion, why should the Turkish language have to be utilized by Central Asian countries? Some may say, all Turkic brothers and sisters must unify. But to me, it seems that Central Asians have to give up THEIR native language and culture in order to speak Turkish.
I am Kazakh and I am very much proud of my kazakh language and
culture. The reason why I say this, is because I’ve seen many kazakhs who only spoke turkish and regarded their native tongue in inferior ways. In Kazakhstan, we have enough kazakhs speaking russian as their sole language. That’s enough headache, we don’t need to add turkish to that list.
`Plus, many think that somehow, todays Turkic people have alot in common. Yes, that’s true, but up to certain degree. For instance, kazakhs and kyrgiz are very oriental looking, tadjiks are persian looking, while turkish people look more european than any other
turic group.
Hello turkic speaking brothers,
The Modern Turkish Lanuage couldn’t be a common language for all six different independent turkic-speaking countries. I wouldn’t say that people and especially linguistic scientists of the Central Asian republic agree to accept today’s modern Turkish. Because it is not more back Old Turkic language which was brought by the Salchuqids from the Qipchoq Steppes to the Byzantine Empire territory. It became completely different and modified far away. Especially Kazakhs and Kyrgyzs languages are very far from modern Turkish. Th eTurkish language is itself on eof the languages of the Turkic language family. As for Azeri (especilly Iranian Ozari), it is more Turkish and/or Turkic than today’s Turkish language in Turkey. Today population in Turkey are anthropologicly more Europoid (caucasoid) race rather than of Mongoloid race like population of all Central Asian Turkic speaking contries. Even, many Turks has whiter skins than Greeks (europeans by the way).